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	<description>by Shawn Allen</description>
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		<title>Comment on Deepwater Horizon by Ceci</title>
		<link>http://compul.se/2010/04/30/deepwater-horizon/comment-page-1/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 14:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for bringing this disaster to the attention of others. Living on the Gulf of Mexico, I feel like this has been underreported, and underestimated from day one. Something like this has never happened, an oil spill is one thing, this is an oil LEAK from a reservoir below the Gulf, with an unknown quantity of oil. It appears this is an open ended leak, that could devastate the environment, and with it (if all you can think of is money) the economy. It makes me ill to see the profits of BP (I believe it was reported at 6 billion this QUARTER) and the lame response to try to contain this leak. And to hear today that BP never had a contingency plan for a disaster like this. Who is watching the oil industry, that this is allowed to happen? Please make everyone you know aware of what's happening here - because although this is currently a local event, due to the ocean currents, you may have this oil on a beach near you in the next few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bringing this disaster to the attention of others. Living on the Gulf of Mexico, I feel like this has been underreported, and underestimated from day one. Something like this has never happened, an oil spill is one thing, this is an oil LEAK from a reservoir below the Gulf, with an unknown quantity of oil. It appears this is an open ended leak, that could devastate the environment, and with it (if all you can think of is money) the economy. It makes me ill to see the profits of BP (I believe it was reported at 6 billion this QUARTER) and the lame response to try to contain this leak. And to hear today that BP never had a contingency plan for a disaster like this. Who is watching the oil industry, that this is allowed to happen? Please make everyone you know aware of what&#8217;s happening here - because although this is currently a local event, due to the ocean currents, you may have this oil on a beach near you in the next few years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Meaningful Interaction by peter</title>
		<link>http://compul.se/2010/04/19/a-meaningful-interaction/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for making the choice you did.  Life is many things, and much easier with help.  The journey is long.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for making the choice you did.  Life is many things, and much easier with help.  The journey is long.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Creationism by Michal Migurski</title>
		<link>http://compul.se/2010/03/09/creationism/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Michal Migurski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear hear. You might enjoy Umair Haque's writings on this topic - he has a shorthand term, "zombieconomy", for what happens when risk management and repackaging replace creation and entropy-reduction as economic drivers. "Profit through economic harm to others results in what I've termed 'thin value.' Thin value is an economic illusion: profit that is economically meaningless, because it leaves others worse off, or, at best, no one better off." (http://teczno.com/s/br1)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear. You might enjoy Umair Haque&#8217;s writings on this topic - he has a shorthand term, &#8220;zombieconomy&#8221;, for what happens when risk management and repackaging replace creation and entropy-reduction as economic drivers. &#8220;Profit through economic harm to others results in what I&#8217;ve termed &#8216;thin value.&#8217; Thin value is an economic illusion: profit that is economically meaningless, because it leaves others worse off, or, at best, no one better off.&#8221; (http://teczno.com/s/br1)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Inevitably Inaugural by kristin</title>
		<link>http://compul.se/2008/04/02/inevitably-inaugural/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you just given me a great excuse to go back to my favorite whiskey shop.... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you just given me a great excuse to go back to my favorite whiskey shop&#8230;. <img src='http://compul.se/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do you hate bikes so much, Rob? by Shawn</title>
		<link>http://compul.se/2008/08/21/why-do-you-hate-bikes-so-much-rob/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Murky psychological analysis"? I don't think that I need any "facts" to back up the assertion that your view of cyclists is less than favorable. But, for posterity, here are a couple of choice quotes:

"Speaking of delusions, the central delusion you folks hold is that somehow riding a bike can ever really be made safe. It's an intrinsically risky way to get around the city." (&lt;a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/03/traffic-calmers-get-excited.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)

"In short, the greatest danger to cyclists is their own cognitive shortcomings that lead them to adopt cycling in the first place ..." (&lt;a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/06/bike-documents-analysis.html#c8141540861777622757" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)

"Regardless of the obvious dangers, some people will ride bikes in San Francisco for the same reason Islamic fanatics will engage in suicide bombings---because they are politically motivated to do so." (&lt;a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/05/taking-space-from-cars-for-bikes.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)

"People do some amazingly stupid things because of fashion and politics. Cycling and all its accessories is just the latest with-it political fashion in SF." (&lt;a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/05/cycling-as-speedthrill-based-activity.html#c4763148628169216521" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)

"But then the whole bike trip is essentially about style, with bikes an accessory to your lame, PC lifestyle." (&lt;a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/05/cycling-as-speedthrill-based-activity.html#c2393699507213235403" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)

And when you aren't calling people &lt;a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/08/sfbcs-2008-election-questionnaire.html#c3448791735994922699" rel="nofollow"&gt;assholes&lt;/a&gt; directly, you use others as your mouthpiece by posting &lt;a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/08/keep-up-good-work-mr-anderson.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;belligerent anti-cyclist mails&lt;/a&gt; on your blog as evidence that there are others out there who share your disdain. What does some guy in Alabama's hatred of "Lance Armstrong wannabes" have to do with anything?

And don't even &lt;i&gt;try&lt;/i&gt; to play that &lt;a href="http://www.industrializedcyclist.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Robert Hurst&lt;/a&gt; card again. You lost your right to quote him when Hurst himself posted the following comment on your blog:

"I believe it's silly to overlook the dangers of cycling in traffic, and there is a faction of cycling advocates who seem to want to do that. On the other hand, I hope I made clear in my book that &lt;b&gt;the benefits of bicycling far outweigh the risks&lt;/b&gt;." (emphasis mine, &lt;a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/08/robert-hurst-on-cycling-in-city.html#c5027670965294611025" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)

I'd really love to hate you back, Rob, but really I just pity you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Murky psychological analysis&#8221;? I don&#8217;t think that I need any &#8220;facts&#8221; to back up the assertion that your view of cyclists is less than favorable. But, for posterity, here are a couple of choice quotes:</p>
<p>&#8220;Speaking of delusions, the central delusion you folks hold is that somehow riding a bike can ever really be made safe. It&#8217;s an intrinsically risky way to get around the city.&#8221; (<a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/03/traffic-calmers-get-excited.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>)</p>
<p>&#8220;In short, the greatest danger to cyclists is their own cognitive shortcomings that lead them to adopt cycling in the first place &#8230;&#8221; (<a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/06/bike-documents-analysis.html#c8141540861777622757" rel="nofollow">here</a>)</p>
<p>&#8220;Regardless of the obvious dangers, some people will ride bikes in San Francisco for the same reason Islamic fanatics will engage in suicide bombings&#8212;because they are politically motivated to do so.&#8221; (<a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/05/taking-space-from-cars-for-bikes.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>)</p>
<p>&#8220;People do some amazingly stupid things because of fashion and politics. Cycling and all its accessories is just the latest with-it political fashion in SF.&#8221; (<a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/05/cycling-as-speedthrill-based-activity.html#c4763148628169216521" rel="nofollow">here</a>)</p>
<p>&#8220;But then the whole bike trip is essentially about style, with bikes an accessory to your lame, PC lifestyle.&#8221; (<a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/05/cycling-as-speedthrill-based-activity.html#c2393699507213235403" rel="nofollow">here</a>)</p>
<p>And when you aren&#8217;t calling people <a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/08/sfbcs-2008-election-questionnaire.html#c3448791735994922699" rel="nofollow">assholes</a> directly, you use others as your mouthpiece by posting <a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/08/keep-up-good-work-mr-anderson.html" rel="nofollow">belligerent anti-cyclist mails</a> on your blog as evidence that there are others out there who share your disdain. What does some guy in Alabama&#8217;s hatred of &#8220;Lance Armstrong wannabes&#8221; have to do with anything?</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t even <i>try</i> to play that <a href="http://www.industrializedcyclist.com/" rel="nofollow">Robert Hurst</a> card again. You lost your right to quote him when Hurst himself posted the following comment on your blog:</p>
<p>&#8220;I believe it&#8217;s silly to overlook the dangers of cycling in traffic, and there is a faction of cycling advocates who seem to want to do that. On the other hand, I hope I made clear in my book that <b>the benefits of bicycling far outweigh the risks</b>.&#8221; (emphasis mine, <a href="http://district5diary.blogspot.com/2008/08/robert-hurst-on-cycling-in-city.html#c5027670965294611025" rel="nofollow">here</a>)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d really love to hate you back, Rob, but really I just pity you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do you hate bikes so much, Rob? by Rob Anderson</title>
		<link>http://compul.se/2008/08/21/why-do-you-hate-bikes-so-much-rob/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Do you object to the skirting of CEQA or to implementation of the Bike Plan itself? Because I've been following your blog for a while, and I can't help but get the impression that these points are simply justifications for your deep-seated resentment of bikes and everyone who rides them."

Failing to find any actual facts to back up your case, you fall back on a murky psychological analysis. There are a number of issues here. First, there's the law the city clearly flouted, which is why we won the litigation. Second, there's the bad behavior of many cyclists on city streets. Third, there's the reality that cycling is a risky way to get around the city, regardless of how many bike lanes are or are not painted on city streets. Many of the commenters to my blog are in denial on all three points. The safety issue: I really don't mind that you and your comrades want to risk injury by riding a bike, but, as cyclist/author Robert Hurst points out, it's just silly to deny the dangers of urban cycling. I've never written that "bikes don't belong on city streets." That's pure invention on your part. What I object to most of all is the attempt to redesign city streets on behalf of cyclists without any serious study being done beforehand, not to mention the fact that people in the neighborhoods knew very little about the Bicycle Plan before the litigation stopped the city from implementing it and forced it to do an EIR first.

Eventually, there is going to be a Bicycle Plan implemented on city streets, but at least now city neighborhoods will have some warning and will be able to give city officials some input before their streets are redesigned on behalf of a tiny minority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you object to the skirting of CEQA or to implementation of the Bike Plan itself? Because I&#8217;ve been following your blog for a while, and I can&#8217;t help but get the impression that these points are simply justifications for your deep-seated resentment of bikes and everyone who rides them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Failing to find any actual facts to back up your case, you fall back on a murky psychological analysis. There are a number of issues here. First, there&#8217;s the law the city clearly flouted, which is why we won the litigation. Second, there&#8217;s the bad behavior of many cyclists on city streets. Third, there&#8217;s the reality that cycling is a risky way to get around the city, regardless of how many bike lanes are or are not painted on city streets. Many of the commenters to my blog are in denial on all three points. The safety issue: I really don&#8217;t mind that you and your comrades want to risk injury by riding a bike, but, as cyclist/author Robert Hurst points out, it&#8217;s just silly to deny the dangers of urban cycling. I&#8217;ve never written that &#8220;bikes don&#8217;t belong on city streets.&#8221; That&#8217;s pure invention on your part. What I object to most of all is the attempt to redesign city streets on behalf of cyclists without any serious study being done beforehand, not to mention the fact that people in the neighborhoods knew very little about the Bicycle Plan before the litigation stopped the city from implementing it and forced it to do an EIR first.</p>
<p>Eventually, there is going to be a Bicycle Plan implemented on city streets, but at least now city neighborhoods will have some warning and will be able to give city officials some input before their streets are redesigned on behalf of a tiny minority.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do you hate bikes so much, Rob? by Lydia</title>
		<link>http://compul.se/2008/08/21/why-do-you-hate-bikes-so-much-rob/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your response to the WSJ article is much more eloquent than what I posted on my tumblr for about 5 mins, before deciding to take it down because I realized it's inappropriate to wish physical harm on old men.

I've also had some thoughts brewing for awhile in regards to bike laws and what it means to be a "law abiding cyclist". The short of it is that the laws make absolutely no sense and need to be rewritten. It's nearly impossible to be a completely law abiding cyclist because the laws were written for CARS and don't take into account what it is like to actually ride a bike in the city. Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your response to the WSJ article is much more eloquent than what I posted on my tumblr for about 5 mins, before deciding to take it down because I realized it&#8217;s inappropriate to wish physical harm on old men.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also had some thoughts brewing for awhile in regards to bike laws and what it means to be a &#8220;law abiding cyclist&#8221;. The short of it is that the laws make absolutely no sense and need to be rewritten. It&#8217;s nearly impossible to be a completely law abiding cyclist because the laws were written for CARS and don&#8217;t take into account what it is like to actually ride a bike in the city. Ugh.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do you hate bikes so much, Rob? by Shawn</title>
		<link>http://compul.se/2008/08/21/why-do-you-hate-bikes-so-much-rob/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice straw man, Law Abiding Cyclist. This isn't about bikers obeying the law. But now that you mention it, one thing to consider is that increasing the number of bikes on the road also increases the need to enforce the laws that govern their operation. In other words, police will pay more attention to cyclists if there are more of them out there.

See also: &lt;a href="http://washcycle.typepad.com/home/2008/07/the-myth-of-the.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Myth of the Scofflaw Cyclist&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice straw man, Law Abiding Cyclist. This isn&#8217;t about bikers obeying the law. But now that you mention it, one thing to consider is that increasing the number of bikes on the road also increases the need to enforce the laws that govern their operation. In other words, police will pay more attention to cyclists if there are more of them out there.</p>
<p>See also: <a href="http://washcycle.typepad.com/home/2008/07/the-myth-of-the.html" rel="nofollow">The Myth of the Scofflaw Cyclist</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do you hate bikes so much, Rob? by Law Abiding Cyclist</title>
		<link>http://compul.se/2008/08/21/why-do-you-hate-bikes-so-much-rob/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Law Abiding Cyclist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cyclists cannot be taken seriously in the current state of affairs. In order to be considered vehicles that should share the roadway, they need to be licensed and have liability insurance like any other vehicle. That would provide a huge disincentive to certain cyclists' dangerous behaviors, witnessed daily on the streets. Sailing through a red light, blocking a cross walk, scratching a parked car, or knocking down a pedestrian should all have consequences financial and legal. Without a registration system, the small but prominent crazy bikers out there will continue to cause trouble for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclists cannot be taken seriously in the current state of affairs. In order to be considered vehicles that should share the roadway, they need to be licensed and have liability insurance like any other vehicle. That would provide a huge disincentive to certain cyclists&#8217; dangerous behaviors, witnessed daily on the streets. Sailing through a red light, blocking a cross walk, scratching a parked car, or knocking down a pedestrian should all have consequences financial and legal. Without a registration system, the small but prominent crazy bikers out there will continue to cause trouble for everyone.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do you hate bikes so much, Rob? by Shawn</title>
		<link>http://compul.se/2008/08/21/why-do-you-hate-bikes-so-much-rob/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's interesting. You responded very differently on your blog...

"Again, what is it about you bike people and your reading disability? Too much diesel fumes clouding your brains? I don't give a rat's ass whether you and your PC friends ride bikes in SF. I just object to the city's attempt at redesigning city streets on behalf of your small minority, thus making traffic worse for the rest of us."

So, which is it? Do you object to the skirting of CEQA, or to implementation of the Bike Plan itself? Because I've been following your blog for a while, and I can't help but get the impression that these points are simply justifications for your deep-seated resentment of bikes and everyone who rides them (i.e., me and my "PC friends"). Clearly you &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; care "who does or doesn't ride a bike," since you spend so much time trying to make the case that they're inherently dangerous and that, because of this, the city shouldn't waste its precious resources to accommodate them. You've written volumes asserting that bikes don't belong on city streets, and that people who ride them are stupid. And then you expect people to believe you when you say that you sued the city because of a CEQA violation?

Give me a break. And, for what it's worth, I never even mentioned cars in my reply. So don't even try to paint me with that "anti-car" brush. Automobiles (MUNI buses, for instance) are obviously an integral component of city business and transport. I just wish that you'd consider the somewhat radical idea that they could share the road with cyclists in a way that's safe and increases the level of service for &lt;em&gt;everyone&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting. You responded very differently on your blog&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Again, what is it about you bike people and your reading disability? Too much diesel fumes clouding your brains? I don&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s ass whether you and your PC friends ride bikes in SF. I just object to the city&#8217;s attempt at redesigning city streets on behalf of your small minority, thus making traffic worse for the rest of us.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, which is it? Do you object to the skirting of CEQA, or to implementation of the Bike Plan itself? Because I&#8217;ve been following your blog for a while, and I can&#8217;t help but get the impression that these points are simply justifications for your deep-seated resentment of bikes and everyone who rides them (i.e., me and my &#8220;PC friends&#8221;). Clearly you <em>do</em> care &#8220;who does or doesn&#8217;t ride a bike,&#8221; since you spend so much time trying to make the case that they&#8217;re inherently dangerous and that, because of this, the city shouldn&#8217;t waste its precious resources to accommodate them. You&#8217;ve written volumes asserting that bikes don&#8217;t belong on city streets, and that people who ride them are stupid. And then you expect people to believe you when you say that you sued the city because of a CEQA violation?</p>
<p>Give me a break. And, for what it&#8217;s worth, I never even mentioned cars in my reply. So don&#8217;t even try to paint me with that &#8220;anti-car&#8221; brush. Automobiles (MUNI buses, for instance) are obviously an integral component of city business and transport. I just wish that you&#8217;d consider the somewhat radical idea that they could share the road with cyclists in a way that&#8217;s safe and increases the level of service for <em>everyone</em>.</p>
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